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Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:54 pm
by Bearhugger
I see 5, possibly 6 wrestlers pinning their way through the state tournament.
Two in AAA and 3-4 in AA/A.
I wonder who will get it done the fastest?
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:26 pm
by Truesouthfaninhunt
Interesting stuff
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:31 pm
by Bearhugger
Truesouthfaninhunt wrote:Interesting stuff
Of course a few of these guys might purposely tech fall some opponents for some reason.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:00 pm
by hooverfan19
Bearhugger please elaborate on your prediction. I want to know who to watch at the tourney.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:30 pm
by Bearhugger
hooverfan19 wrote:Bearhugger please elaborate on your prediction. I want to know who to watch at the tourney.
If I was going to name them, I would have done so in the original post. The names are hermedically sealed in a mason jar on Gator's front porch.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:12 pm
by Bearhugger
Bearhugger wrote:I see 5, possibly 6 wrestlers pinning their way through the state tournament.
Two in AAA and 3-4 in AA/A.
I wonder who will get it done the fastest?
Region results:
AAA:
Wrestler 1 pinned his way through
Wrestler 2 had no pins. It looks like his #1 opponent closed the distance.
AA/A:
Wrestler 1 pinned 100%
Wrestler 2 had one Tech Fall. Obviously wanted mat time.
Wrestler 3 pinned 100%
Maybe Wrestler pinned 100%
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:23 am
by greencrush
hooverfan19 wrote:Bearhugger please elaborate on your prediction. I want to know who to watch at the tourney.
I'll pick 4, in order of likelihood.
1. Braxton Amos, South, AAA 220
2. Nate Kotsko, East Fairmont, AA/A 182
3. Zach Frazier, Fairmont Senior, AA/A HWT
4. Jordan Williams, Braxton, AA/A 170
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:56 am
by dsb4lyfe
U know who gona pen ther weigh threw that ther turny next week?? DSB!
Good luck to all, but them ther that wrastle any DSB boyz!
Lets gitter!
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:21 pm
by aacoach81
Sorry, number 2 and number 4 I disagree.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:45 pm
by Bearhugger
dsb4lyfe wrote:U know who gona pen ther weigh threw that ther turny next week?? DSB!
Good luck to all, but them ther that wrastle any DSB boyz!
Lets gitter!
DSB has a girl now
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:24 am
by KDunbar
She's actually the "z" factor in boyz.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:27 pm
by Truesouthfaninhunt
Bearhugger wrote:dsb4lyfe wrote:U know who gona pen ther weigh threw that ther turny next week?? DSB!
Good luck to all, but them ther that wrastle any DSB boyz!
Lets gitter!
DSB has a girl now
Lets leave gender out of such discussions. They are wrestlers ... period. When these kids step on the mat they are wrestlers all vying for the same goal. May the best wrestler win. There should be no glass ceiling in high school wrestling! It all boils down to guts and determination not chromosomes.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:49 pm
by Bearhugger
Truesouthfaninhunt wrote:Bearhugger wrote:dsb4lyfe wrote:U know who gona pen ther weigh threw that ther turny next week?? DSB!
Good luck to all, but them ther that wrastle any DSB boyz!
Lets gitter!
DSB has a girl now
Lets leave gender out of such discussions. They are wrestlers ... period. When these kids step on the mat they are wrestlers all vying for the same goal. May the best wrestler win. There should be no glass ceiling in high school wrestling! It all boils down to guts and determination not chromosomes.
Then change the name to "demsouthwrestlers".
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:03 am
by mscoach4
If Braxton has it as a goal to pin through in the least amount of time I would as the old saying goes "bet the farm on it"
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:34 am
by oroyos
mscoach4 wrote:If Braxton has it as a goal to pin through in the least amount of time I would as the old saying goes "bet the farm on it"
......and
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:24 am
by KDunbar
mscoach4 wrote:If Braxton has it as a goal to pin through in the least amount of time I would as the old saying goes "bet the farm on it"
Dylan Woods (presuming he ends up in the finals) may have a lot to say about that. He is tough as nails and is one of the stoutest opponents Braxton has faced the past 2 years in high school.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:13 am
by mscoach4
KDunbar wrote:mscoach4 wrote:If Braxton has it as a goal to pin through in the least amount of time I would as the old saying goes "bet the farm on it"
Dylan Woods (presuming he ends up in the finals) may have a lot to say about that. He is tough as nails and is one of the stoutest opponents Braxton has face the past 2 years in high school.
No slight to anyone else but if I were betting on the one wrestler to have the shortest time mat, my money would be on Braxton,
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:48 am
by shemailman
KDunbar wrote:mscoach4 wrote:If Braxton has it as a goal to pin through in the least amount of time I would as the old saying goes "bet the farm on it"
Dylan Woods (presuming he ends up in the finals) may have a lot to say about that. He is tough as nails and is one of the stoutest opponents Braxton has faced the past 2 years in high school.
You're kidding right?
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:04 pm
by Monarch1996
shemailman wrote:KDunbar wrote:mscoach4 wrote:If Braxton has it as a goal to pin through in the least amount of time I would as the old saying goes "bet the farm on it"
Dylan Woods (presuming he ends up in the finals) may have a lot to say about that. He is tough as nails and is one of the stoutest opponents Braxton has faced the past 2 years in high school.
You're kidding right?
I wouldn't really say the toughest high school kid, since the Ironman has some really tough guys, but Amos has had Wood the last two years in the finals at OVAC and has not pinned him. Won decisively, yes, but no falls. Last year, Wood seemed to simply work to never get turned, this year was less clear. So, yes...I think Amos will win easily through the semis, not really be pushed in the finals, but a decision or major would not shock me.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:09 pm
by brentsams
Monarch1996 wrote:shemailman wrote:KDunbar wrote:Dylan Woods (presuming he ends up in the finals) may have a lot to say about that. He is tough as nails and is one of the stoutest opponents Braxton has faced the past 2 years in high school.
You're kidding right?
I wouldn't really say the toughest high school kid, since the Ironman has some really tough guys, but Amos has had Wood the last two years in the finals at OVAC and has not pinned him. Won decisively, yes, but no falls. Last year, Wood seemed to simply work to never get turned, this year was less clear. So, yes...I think Amos will win easily through the semis, not really be pushed in the finals, but a decision or major would not shock me.
Last years State Tournament Semi-Finals
Weight: 220
Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Dylan Wood (Jr), Wheeling Park, 3.56
BJ Haynes (Sr), Ripley Dec Ben Gribble (Jr), University, 3-1
If Braxton pins through, it would be the second year in a row ( a little over 8 minutes). Quite an outstanding accomplishment. Almost unheard of.
His results from last year's tournament
Rd 1: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Ayden Bishoff (Fr), Preston, 0:27
Quarters: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Nathan Stiffler (Jr), Spring Mills, 0.27
Semis: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Dylan Wood (Jr), Wheeling Park, 3.56
Finals: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall BJ Haynes (Sr), Ripley, 3.15
Don't blink, Better have your cameras ready this year.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:18 pm
by Monarch1996
brentsams wrote:Monarch1996 wrote:shemailman wrote:
You're kidding right?
I wouldn't really say the toughest high school kid, since the Ironman has some really tough guys, but Amos has had Wood the last two years in the finals at OVAC and has not pinned him. Won decisively, yes, but no falls. Last year, Wood seemed to simply work to never get turned, this year was less clear. So, yes...I think Amos will win easily through the semis, not really be pushed in the finals, but a decision or major would not shock me.
Last years State Tournament Semi-Finals
Weight: 220
Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Dylan Wood (Jr), Wheeling Park, 3.56
BJ Haynes (Sr), Ripley Dec Ben Gribble (Jr), University, 3-1
If Braxton pins through, it would be the second year in a row ( a little over 8 minutes). Quite an outstanding accomplishment. Almost unheard of.
His results from last year's tournament
Rd 1: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Ayden Bishoff (Fr), Preston, 0:27
Quarters: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Nathan Stiffler (Jr), Spring Mills, 0.27
Semis: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Dylan Wood (Jr), Wheeling Park, 3.56
Finals: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall BJ Haynes (Sr), Ripley, 3.15
Don't blink, Better have your cameras ready this year.
I stand corrected and I did forget that Amos pinned Wood in the semis. I mostly remembered the OVAC matches, since I was there. This year was somewhat strange, though, and I've never gotten to watch the replay.
Nevertheless, Amos will be a state champion again--and I'm happy to see that as he is a nice young man, too.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:14 pm
by Mwright
What about AA/A 120 Derek Raike I would think he would pin all of his opponents.....
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:34 pm
by SMC
Mwright wrote:What about AA/A 120 Derek Raike I would think he would pin all of his opponents.....
I certainly wouldn't bet against that happening.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:32 am
by KDunbar
shemailman wrote:KDunbar wrote:mscoach4 wrote:If Braxton has it as a goal to pin through in the least amount of time I would as the old saying goes "bet the farm on it"
Dylan Woods (presuming he ends up in the finals) may have a lot to say about that. He is tough as nails and is one of the stoutest opponents Braxton has faced the past 2 years in high school.
You're kidding right?
No, I definitely wasn't kidding. If you read what I said, it was nothing against Braxton, nor against his other opponents. I also didn't say toughest, I said one of the stoutest. They have met 4 times with also a major decision at the OVAC duals last year. I have seen all of Braxton's Ironman matches for the last two years (and the Powerade the last two years, and the Super 32 the last two years, and the OVAC the last two years, and the Virginia duals, and the York, PA preseason tournament the past two years, and most of his other high school matches, and about everything recorded on the Internet since middle school). That doesn't make me an expert and it doesn't make me right. But it was an informed and well thought out opinion. Most guys don't stand a chance and most guys can't put up enough resistance to last. If you try to resist he just about tears you apart limb by limb, head included. It would be easier to do what a lot of guys do, and just get pinned. But Dylan Woods isn't made that way. Just giving him credit where credit is due. Braxton will likely beat him again if they meet, and may pin him once more. There is no shame in that if you resist to best of your ability.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:58 am
by KDunbar
brentsams wrote:Monarch1996 wrote:shemailman wrote:
You're kidding right?
I wouldn't really say the toughest high school kid, since the Ironman has some really tough guys, but Amos has had Wood the last two years in the finals at OVAC and has not pinned him. Won decisively, yes, but no falls. Last year, Wood seemed to simply work to never get turned, this year was less clear. So, yes...I think Amos will win easily through the semis, not really be pushed in the finals, but a decision or major would not shock me.
Last years State Tournament Semi-Finals
Weight: 220
Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Dylan Wood (Jr), Wheeling Park, 3.56
BJ Haynes (Sr), Ripley Dec Ben Gribble (Jr), University, 3-1
If Braxton pins through, it would be the second year in a row ( a little over 8 minutes). Quite an outstanding accomplishment. Almost unheard of.
His results from last year's tournament
Rd 1: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Ayden Bishoff (Fr), Preston, 0:27
Quarters: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Nathan Stiffler (Jr), Spring Mills, 0.27
Semis: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Dylan Wood (Jr), Wheeling Park, 3.56
Finals: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall BJ Haynes (Sr), Ripley, 3.15
Don't blink, Better have your cameras ready this year.
We are a fickle and forgetful bunch. I'm sure Brent actually hasn't forgotten, but there once was a kid named Josh Humphreys.
His state tournament history:
2015= 23 sec pin/56 sec pin/58 sec pin/1:26 pin for a total of 3:43
2016= 55 sec pin/1:47 pin/ 1:04 pin/ 6-0 decision for a total of 9:46
2017= Forfeit/38 sec pin/ 38 sec pin/ 1:31 pin for a total of 2:47
2018= Forfeit/1:58 pin/ 1:21 pin/ 1:58 pin for a total of 5:17
He sure gets a lot of credit for just wrestling only 21:23 (just kidding of course)
[PS. A thanks goes to Bearhugger for making sure the first round forfeits Josh had are less likely to occur from here on out]
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:11 am
by Bearhugger
KDunbar wrote:brentsams wrote:Monarch1996 wrote:
I wouldn't really say the toughest high school kid, since the Ironman has some really tough guys, but Amos has had Wood the last two years in the finals at OVAC and has not pinned him. Won decisively, yes, but no falls. Last year, Wood seemed to simply work to never get turned, this year was less clear. So, yes...I think Amos will win easily through the semis, not really be pushed in the finals, but a decision or major would not shock me.
Last years State Tournament Semi-Finals
Weight: 220
Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Dylan Wood (Jr), Wheeling Park, 3.56
BJ Haynes (Sr), Ripley Dec Ben Gribble (Jr), University, 3-1
If Braxton pins through, it would be the second year in a row ( a little over 8 minutes). Quite an outstanding accomplishment. Almost unheard of.
His results from last year's tournament
Rd 1: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Ayden Bishoff (Fr), Preston, 0:27
Quarters: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Nathan Stiffler (Jr), Spring Mills, 0.27
Semis: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall Dylan Wood (Jr), Wheeling Park, 3.56
Finals: Braxton Amos (Soph), Parkersburg South Fall BJ Haynes (Sr), Ripley, 3.15
Don't blink, Better have your cameras ready this year.
We are a fickle and forgetful bunch. I'm sure Brent actually hasn't forgotten, but there once was a kid named Josh Humphreys.
His state tournament history:
2015= 23 sec pin/56 sec pin/58 sec pin/1:26 pin for a total of 3:43
2016= 55 sec pin/1:47 pin/ 1:04 pin/ 6-0 decision for a total of 9:46
2017= Forfeit/38 sec pin/ 38 sec pin/ 1:31 pin for a total of 2:47
2018= Forfeit/1:58 pin/ 1:21 pin/ 1:58 pin for a total of 5:17
He sure gets a lot of credit for just wrestling only 21:23 (just kidding of course)
[PS. A thanks goes to Bearhugger for making sure the first round forfeits Josh had are less likely to occur from here on out]
Despite using numerous 5th place winners from many regions, there were still many forfeits in AAA Thursday night.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:14 am
by Bearhugger
Bearhugger wrote:I see 5, possibly 6 wrestlers pinning their way through the state tournament.
Two in AAA and 3-4 in AA/A.
I wonder who will get it done the fastest?
So far so good. A few were so fast, I missed their matches.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:25 am
by shemailman
KDunbar wrote:shemailman wrote:KDunbar wrote:Dylan Woods (presuming he ends up in the finals) may have a lot to say about that. He is tough as nails and is one of the stoutest opponents Braxton has faced the past 2 years in high school.
You're kidding right?
No, I definitely wasn't kidding. If you read what I said, it was nothing against Braxton, nor against his other opponents. I also didn't say toughest, I said one of the stoutest. They have met 4 times with also a major decision at the OVAC duals last year. I have seen all of Braxton's Ironman matches for the last two years (and the Powerade the last two years, and the Super 32 the last two years, and the OVAC the last two years, and the Virginia duals, and the York, PA preseason tournament the past two years, and most of his other high school matches, and about everything recorded on the Internet since middle school). That doesn't make me an expert and it doesn't make me right. But it was an informed and well thought out opinion. Most guys don't stand a chance and most guys can't put up enough resistance to last. If you try to resist he just about tears you apart limb by limb, head included. It would be easier to do what a lot of guys do, and just get pinned. But Dylan Woods isn't made that way. Just giving him credit where credit is due. Braxton will likely beat him again if they meet, and may pin him once more. There is no shame in that if you resist to best of your ability.
Or perhaps the stall camp originated at Wheeling Park.
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:55 am
by mscoach4
Braxton took what almost seemed to be an eternity in the semis, so he is at 18 plus 28 plus 1:28 for a running total of 2:14, I dunno where anyone else is in total time on the mat
Re: Pinning Through
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:05 am
by KDunbar
shemailman wrote:KDunbar wrote:shemailman wrote:
You're kidding right?
No, I definitely wasn't kidding. If you read what I said, it was nothing against Braxton, nor against his other opponents. I also didn't say toughest, I said one of the stoutest. They have met 4 times with also a major decision at the OVAC duals last year. I have seen all of Braxton's Ironman matches for the last two years (and the Powerade the last two years, and the Super 32 the last two years, and the OVAC the last two years, and the Virginia duals, and the York, PA preseason tournament the past two years, and most of his other high school matches, and about everything recorded on the Internet since middle school). That doesn't make me an expert and it doesn't make me right. But it was an informed and well thought out opinion. Most guys don't stand a chance and most guys can't put up enough resistance to last. If you try to resist he just about tears you apart limb by limb, head included. It would be easier to do what a lot of guys do, and just get pinned. But Dylan Woods isn't made that way. Just giving him credit where credit is due. Braxton will likely beat him again if they meet, and may pin him once more. There is no shame in that if you resist to best of your ability.
Or perhaps the stall camp originated at Wheeling Park.
I'm not really trying to win an argument. So let's just say that you have to be "tough as nails and stout" to stall and survive without being pinned against Braxton.