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South had 12 pins 1 tech and 1 bye. All 14 still alive. Windland 1:02, Irizarry 1:24, Roberts :28, Martin :27, Shamblin 1:45, L. Flinn 18-2, J. Flinn :24, Hinzman :25, Dunbar ;49, Lambiotte :37, Allman 5:12, Haga :43, Fullerton bye and Delong (3rd quickest pin in the tournament; :15 seconds.)

Should have came to Zs and got some competition.

guard0544 wrote:Should have came to Zs and got some competition.

No competition at OVAC It was RD 1 genius. Who do the higher seeds wrestle in RD 1? Lol keep watching...

P.H.D. wrote:

guard0544 wrote:Should have came to Zs and got some competition.

No competition at OVAC It was RD 1 genius. Who do the higher seeds wrestle in RD 1? Lol keep watching...

There is no denying you are correct,...I am a genius.

Round one at the WSAZ will probably have many quick pins like this too. Those JV guys are hungry. I expect some upsets.

Bearhugger wrote:Round one at the WSAZ will probably have many quick pins like this too. Those JV guys are hungry. I expect some upsets.

He erroneously assumed I was being serious.

I wish someone would call me a genius.
It would be awesome if South and PHS could attend.

guard0544 wrote:Should have came to Zs and got some competition.

Last time South was at the WSAZ - 2005
Results of first matches for South.
103 - pin
112 - pin
119 - pin (South2 - pin)
125 - pin
130 - pin
135 - pin (South2 - pin)
140 - pin
145 - pin
152 - pin
160 - pin
171 - pin
189 - pin
215 - pin
275 - pin
Maybe it's not the tournament?

KDunbar drops mic and walks off stage.

KennyFPowers wrote:KDunbar drops mic and walks off stage.

Gator picks up mic. South was actually at the WSAZ tournament in 2015.

Surely the moderators are going to remove Gator's post. It's an obvious attempt to humiliate and berate an old man in front of a young audience. Wait, did I say attempt?

KDunbar wrote:Surely the moderators are going to remove Gator's post. It's an obvious attempt to humiliate and berate an old man in front of a young audience. Wait, did I say attempt?

Old man vs old man! Fair fight!

Results were still about the same in 2015.

South has 8 in the semis tomorrow in the OVACS......

106 Tucker Windland
120 Brayden Roberts
126 Luke Martin
152 Zane Hinzman
160 Drew Dunbar
170 TJ Lambiotte
182 Hunter DeLong
195 Justin Allman

Still alive in consolation rounds.........

Ian Irazary
Mikey Shamblin
Landon Flinn
Jarritt Flinn
Louden Haga

They will place 13 out of 14 wrestlers!

South has 7 in the OVAC finals..............

106 Tucker Windland
126 Luke Martin
152 Zane Hinzman
160 Drew Dunbar
170 TJ Lambiotte
182 Hunter DeLong
195 Justin Allman

South wins the OVAC Tournament with 298 points. Runner up was Steubenville, OH with 228.50.

South crowned 4 champions. 126 Luke Martin 152 Zane Hinzman 170 TJ Lambiotte and 182 Hunter DeLong. They had 3 runner ups, 106 Tucker Windland, 160 Drew Dunbar and 195 Justin Allman.

Hunter DeLong became only the 9th wrestler to win 4 consecutive OVAC Championships in 64 years and was also named the Hercules Award Winner with the most pins in the shortest time. Well done Hunter!

It was a good night for WV wrestling! The WV wrestlers won 10 of 14 finals matches.

106- Cole McComas, Beav dec Tucker Windland, Park South 4-2
113- Tim Young, Steub dec Abe Frizzell, Mead 10-4
120- Peyton Hall, Oak Glen dec Greg Quinn, Shad 13-6
126- Luke Martin, Park South dec Caleb Rea, Weir 4-2
132- Alex Cook, Madonna dec Josh Kahl, Shad 3-2
138- Robert Bozek, Oak Glen dec Anthony Carman, John Marshal 3-2
145- Jashon Hubbard, Steub dec Miles Mazik, Indian Creek 6-1
152- Zane Hinzman, Park South dec Beau Smith, Beav 8-6 SV
160- John Nash, Wheeling Park dec Drew Dunbar, Park South 7-2
170- TJ Lambiotte, Park South TF Billy Johnson, Shad 19-4
182- Hunter DeLong, Park South fall Nick Valachovic, Univ 2:27 **DeLong is 4x Champ
195- Dalton Hoover, Martins Ferry dec Justin Allman Park South 7-4
220- Alex Edgell, Brooke dec Hunter Bodkin, Martins Ferry 3-2 UT
285- Gage Giovengo, Lindsey dec Tyler Ely, Steub 4-1

TrueSouthFanInPburg wrote:South had 12 pins 1 tech and 1 bye. All 14 still alive. Windland 1:02, Irizarry 1:24, Roberts :28, Martin :27, Shamblin 1:45, L. Flinn 18-2, J. Flinn :24, Hinzman :25, Dunbar ;49, Lambiotte :37, Allman 5:12, Haga :43, Fullerton bye and Delong (3rd quickest pin in the tournament; :15 seconds.)

This kinda highlights my only issue with this tournament and I do not believe it would have changed the overall outcome, but why did University have 5 byes in the first round and PS have one. For that matter, Steubenville also only have one bye and Beaver Local had 3. I am uncertain of how exactly how this is scored for team points, but I can't imagine there are bonus points earned for advancement when a bye is involved. It puts the team with significantly more byes behind the eight ball.

J. Zeiders

Bucktail wrote:

TrueSouthFanInPburg wrote:South had 12 pins 1 tech and 1 bye. All 14 still alive. Windland 1:02, Irizarry 1:24, Roberts :28, Martin :27, Shamblin 1:45, L. Flinn 18-2, J. Flinn :24, Hinzman :25, Dunbar ;49, Lambiotte :37, Allman 5:12, Haga :43, Fullerton bye and Delong (3rd quickest pin in the tournament; :15 seconds.)

This kinda highlights my only issue with this tournament and I do not believe it would have changed the overall outcome, but why did University have 5 byes in the first round and PS have one. For that matter, Steubenville also only have one bye and Beaver Local had 3. I am uncertain of how exactly how this is scored for team points, but I can't imagine there are bonus points earned for advancement when a bye is involved. It puts the team with significantly more byes behind the eight ball.

J. Zeiders

That IS a good question. We are probably going to see the same issues at the state tournament this year. I'm not sure what or who decides the byes(unless it's the seeding). Should be more balanced though. Good thought!

I agree with you Gator, but much harder to do with the State Tournament as those byes will be slid into the pill. So the top guy from a region is the one likely to have the bye. Clearly, this is more likely to effect teams like Park South and Independence or teams with lots of regions champs.

Bucktail wrote:

TrueSouthFanInPburg wrote:South had 12 pins 1 tech and 1 bye. All 14 still alive. Windland 1:02, Irizarry 1:24, Roberts :28, Martin :27, Shamblin 1:45, L. Flinn 18-2, J. Flinn :24, Hinzman :25, Dunbar ;49, Lambiotte :37, Allman 5:12, Haga :43, Fullerton bye and Delong (3rd quickest pin in the tournament; :15 seconds.)

This kinda highlights my only issue with this tournament and I do not believe it would have changed the overall outcome, but why did University have 5 byes in the first round and PS have one. For that matter, Steubenville also only have one bye and Beaver Local had 3. I am uncertain of how exactly how this is scored for team points, but I can't imagine there are bonus points earned for advancement when a bye is involved. It puts the team with significantly more byes behind the eight ball.

J. Zeiders

I think this is how it goes. Once the 12 seeded wrestlers are in the bracket, all the remaining wrestlers are placed by a blind draw. Every bracket is filled in the exact same manner. The first unseeded wrestler drawn goes against the #1 seed, the second unseeded wrestler drawn goes against the #3 seed, the fourth unseeded goes against the #4 seed, and so on. So basically you get rewarded with a first round match if you are seeded wrestler

In the MSAC the byes are equal or as close to equal as they can be. During the seeding meeting the coaches keep track of byes.
Typically you want your best wrestlers wrestling instead of byes. You only receive advancement points for the bye if you win the following round. The bye does not allow your kid to score bonus points (major decision, tech fall, fall).

The designate certain lines as bye lines and after the seeded wrestlers are placed they fill the rest of the bracket in by winning percentage. The more seeds you have the less byes you will have in the opening round.

Boy I ate a really good salad yesterday. Have you ever tried the raspberry vinegrette?

Thank you AAA33 and AA15 I appreciate the knowledge. It makes a little more sense.

Top seeded wrestlers do not automatically receive BYEs, BYEs are randomly drawn or placed by mutual consent. If the top seeds received BYES without the opportunity to score bonus points, then no one would want to be top seed.
i.e. A seven man bracket with one bye. If the top seed automatically receives a BYE, wouldn't you rather be 2nd seed and wrestle someone to get the bonus points?

The basic process on drawing brackets is:
1. place seeded wrestlers.
2. randomly draw byes by quarter bracket/half-bracket. (or by mutual consent)
3. randomly place remaining wrestlers.

Here is how the rule book read at one time. I believe it is still accurate. I have not read this years rulebook but I do not recall seeing any rulebook changes on it.

I was impressed with how well the Tournament was seeded. You could tell that a lot of time and effort was put into it.

Thanks to all of the individuals who make this great tournament a success every year!