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Buckeyes signed #1,#2 and #3 ranked recruits… No. 1 Jesse Mendez. No. 2 Nic Bouzakis. No. 3 Nick Feldman.

You may recall that in an interview after he won the Big 10 championship, Sammy Sasso issued a call “to all the young savages out there to come to Columbus.” Mendez’s father said his son was listening.

They may have some scholarship room with Echemendia facing a felony.

aacoach61 wrote:Buckeyes signed #1,#2 and #3 ranked recruits… No. 1 Jesse Mendez. No. 2 Nic Bouzakis. No. 3 Nick Feldman.

You may recall that in an interview after he won the Big 10 championship, Sammy Sasso issued a call “to all the young savages out there to come to Columbus.” Mendez’s father said his son was listening.

How does WVU compete with this?

WVU has had 2 Big 12 champions. BOTH were natives of WV.

WVU has only two nationally ranked wrestlers currently. One is a WV native and the other is a transfer from a cancelled program in a next door state.

How does WVU compete with this? Good question...

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Those articles are from 2017 and those numbers are from 2015, just imagine what those budgets are like now. And those are non-profit organizations so the majority, if not all, of that money is coming in the form of donations. Now lets get back to the question, how does WVU compete with Ohio State getting the top 3 recruits from the class of 2022?

Step 1: Hire a head coach that has proven to train NCAA All-Americans and Champions. Check...Like him or not, and most do, Tim Flynn is a proven head coach and is a household name in college wrestling.

Step 2: Build the RTC to make it more enticing for young men to want to come there and wrestle. In order for the programs listed in those articles to have those kinds of funds they have to have a lot of volunteer help, a good Booster program if you will. A good example is Parkersburg South, they have good coaches and good wrestlers but if it wasn't for individuals volunteering their time to help raise the money to travel to the tournaments they do, the programs would not be as successful. With the success comes a lot of local support to make it all happen.

This step is still progress for WVU, they have been concentrating on fund raising to build up the bank account.

Step 3: Hire the right coach to run the RTC. There are great coaches out there that have nothing to do with college teams directly but yet they attract a lot of high school recruits. Examples are Brandon Slay at the Penn. RTC, Reece Humphrey at the NJRTC, and until recently Tervel Dlagnev at the Ohio RTC. Am I saying that getting someone of this caliber is going to be easy, no I am not. The next great coach is out waiting for his chance to prove that he belongs. Keep in mind the difference between possible and probable. Is it possible to get a high caliber coach, yes everything is possible. Is it probable, not at this point but it could be if that bank account was big enough. A coach of that caliber is nothing more than a business investment, once the initial cost is absorbed with any luck they will pay for themselves in the near future. After all who wouldn't get behind this program with Tim Flynn as the head coach and someone like Jordan Oliver as the RTC coach?

See there, it is just 3 easy steps...lol Now, I will agree that gaining local support is whole lot easier when the young men from WV stay in state and wrestle for WVU. Everyone has a different goal in life and we all have different personalities so sometimes keeping the best kids in state is just not in the cards. That is perfectly ok, if you can't get this one then look ahead and try to get the next one.

Most people now a days are not smart enough and don't have the work ethic that it takes to build their house from the ground up. If you talk to someone that has they will tell you that it takes a while and it is nothing but hard work. They call it hard work because there isn't anything easy about it.

Jon Perkins wrote:Those articles are from 2017 and those numbers are from 2015, just imagine what those budgets are like now. And those are non-profit organizations so the majority, if not all, of that money is coming in the form of donations. Now lets get back to the question, how does WVU compete with Ohio State getting the top 3 recruits from the class of 2022?

Step 1: Hire a head coach that has proven to train NCAA All-Americans and Champions. Check...Like him or not, and most do, Tim Flynn is a proven head coach and is a household name in college wrestling.

Step 2: Build the RTC to make it more enticing for young men to want to come there and wrestle. In order for the programs listed in those articles to have those kinds of funds they have to have a lot of volunteer help, a good Booster program if you will. A good example is Parkersburg South, they have good coaches and good wrestlers but if it wasn't for individuals volunteering their time to help raise the money to travel to the tournaments they do, the programs would not be as successful. With the success comes a lot of local support to make it all happen.

This step is still progress for WVU, they have been concentrating on fund raising to build up the bank account.

Step 3: Hire the right coach to run the RTC. There are great coaches out there that have nothing to do with college teams directly but yet they attract a lot of high school recruits. Examples are Brandon Slay at the Penn. RTC, Reece Humphrey at the NJRTC, and until recently Tervel Dlagnev at the Ohio RTC. Am I saying that getting someone of this caliber is going to be easy, no I am not. The next great coach is out waiting for his chance to prove that he belongs. Keep in mind the difference between possible and probable. Is it possible to get a high caliber coach, yes everything is possible. Is it probable, not at this point but it could be if that bank account was big enough. A coach of that caliber is nothing more than a business investment, once the initial cost is absorbed with any luck they will pay for themselves in the near future. After all who wouldn't get behind this program with Tim Flynn as the head coach and someone like Jordan Oliver as the RTC coach?

See there, it is just 3 easy steps...lol Now, I will agree that gaining local support is whole lot easier when the young men from WV stay in state and wrestle for WVU. Everyone has a different goal in life and we all have different personalities so sometimes keeping the best kids in state is just not in the cards. That is perfectly ok, if you can't get this one then look ahead and try to get the next one.

Most people now a days are not smart enough and don't have the work ethic that it takes to build their house from the ground up. If you talk to someone that has they will tell you that it takes a while and it is nothing but hard work. They call it hard work because there isn't anything easy about it.

Good commentary. The last thing I saw about WVU's RTC was they were selling off the weight equipment.

I am pretty sure that they just built a new weight room, the equipment they were selling off could have been to make room for new equipment.

There is no competing with this or a psu or iowa. That’s just reality. We’re never going to compete with the top of the big10. Possibly not any team in the big ten. I’d settle if we could compete with Virginia tech and nc state for crying out loud. Tech just got the top 184 guy in the country. Both schools get tons of big time recruits. Throw PItt in there as well. We aren’t anywhere close to any of them. Let alone the top of the big ten. When we aren’t interested in the top wrestler in the country who is an hour or so away then wth are we doing. Not saying he’d of come here but Jesus your have to try and give him everything under the sun to maybe think about it.
It’s be nice if we could be a top 15-20 team and have an individual champion or finalist every once in awhile.

Letsgooo wrote:There is no competing with this or a psu or iowa. That’s just reality. We’re never going to compete with the top of the big10. Possibly not any team in the big ten. I’d settle if we could compete with Virginia tech and nc state for crying out loud. Tech just got the top 184 guy in the country. Both schools get tons of big time recruits. Throw PItt in there as well. We aren’t anywhere close to any of them. Let alone the top of the big ten. When we aren’t interested in the top wrestler in the country who is an hour or so away then wth are we doing. Not saying he’d of come here but Jesus your have to try and give him everything under the sun to maybe think about it.
It’s be nice if we could be a top 15-20 team and have an individual champion or finalist every once in awhile.

Letsgooo, you live in a world of reality.

The word on the street was WVU's attitude toward Braxton Amos was "I cannot get him so why try". Well, try if even for show reasons so the program doesn't look goofy in the eyes of many WV residents. Or looks goofy in the eyes of everybody. Now, Amos is on the college mat. He is going to do big stuff this season and the next three seasons. Every WV wrestling fan will watch his success and then look over at WVU's lack of success. It is what it will be.

Furthermore, WVU's new message is something like "keeping the best wrestlers at home". Where was this ideology 2-3 seasons ago. The program is simply not looking like a top level program.

Yes, the wrestlers are not diving off of roofs anymore. However, we cannot keep reflecting on past behaviors and then brainwash ourselves into saying today "the program is headed in the right direction".

The match with Oklahoma tells where the program is now. The next good indicators will be Davidson and Glenville.

As of November 8th, Flo had zero ranked wrestlers for Davidson. WVU needs to not only win this duel, but needs win 7+ matches.

Glenville! On paper, D1 powerhouse WVU should win every match and have many bonuses. Every match Glenville wins and every close decision Glenville loses will just send messages of where each program is.