Classifications
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Classifications
So how will the new classifications work with wrestling? No way we will have three individual state champions per weight.
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Re: Classifications
This is awful. I would love to have a conversation with someone who can actually do something about this.
If this passes and we go to a 3 class (AAAA, AAA, AA/A) tourney this is how it looks:
AAAA:
R1-5 teams
R2-6 Teams
R3-4 Teams
R4-5 Teams
AAA:
R1-8 Teams
R2-4 Teams
R3-11 Teams
R4-6 Teams
AA/A:
R1-12 Teams
R2-15 Teams
R3- 9 Teams
R4- 12 Teams
In the "top 2" divisions, there are some cases you have to win one match to go to the state tourney (or probably just weigh in). Heck, there will probably be a lot of byes...There has to be a better way. This waters down our state championship in a sport that doesn't need watered down.
IMO, Swimming is a "one-class" system and they have 56 schools. Wrestling has 97ish schools listed above. I bet half or more have less than 10 of the 14 weights. I'm in favor of a single state championship and this 3 class structure actually benefits our team.
We must do better...
If this passes and we go to a 3 class (AAAA, AAA, AA/A) tourney this is how it looks:
AAAA:
R1-5 teams
R2-6 Teams
R3-4 Teams
R4-5 Teams
AAA:
R1-8 Teams
R2-4 Teams
R3-11 Teams
R4-6 Teams
AA/A:
R1-12 Teams
R2-15 Teams
R3- 9 Teams
R4- 12 Teams
In the "top 2" divisions, there are some cases you have to win one match to go to the state tourney (or probably just weigh in). Heck, there will probably be a lot of byes...There has to be a better way. This waters down our state championship in a sport that doesn't need watered down.
IMO, Swimming is a "one-class" system and they have 56 schools. Wrestling has 97ish schools listed above. I bet half or more have less than 10 of the 14 weights. I'm in favor of a single state championship and this 3 class structure actually benefits our team.
We must do better...
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Re: Classifications
****EDITED: Copied and pasted wrong columns. This is the regions as they stand now if the 4 class system passes and no regional changes.
AAAA:
R1 Buckhannon-Upshur, Morgantown, Preston, University, Wheeling Park
R2 Hedgesville, Jefferson, Martinsburg, Musselman, Spring Mills, Washington
R3 George Washington, Oak Hill, Riverside, Woodrow Wilson
R4 Cabell Midland, Huntington High, Hurricane, Parkersburg High, Parkersburg South
AAA:
R1 Bridgeport, Brooke, Fairmont Senior, John Marshall, East Fairmont , Hampshire , Keyser , North Marion
R2 Elkins , Grafton , Lewis County , Robert C Byrd
R3 Capital, Greenbrier East, Nitro, Princeton, South Charleston, St Albans, Bluefield , Herbert Hoover , Nicholas County , PikeView , Shady Spring
R4 Spring Valley, Winfield, Chapmanville Regional, Lincoln County , Point Pleasant , Ripley
AA/A
R1 Berkeley Springs , Frankfort , Oak Glen , Tyler Consolidated , Weir , Cameron , Hundred , Madonna , Magnolia , Paden City , St Marys , Wheeling Central
R2 Braxton County , Clay County , Doddridge County , Lincoln , Moorefield , Petersburg , Philip Barbour , Roane County , South Harrison , East Hardy , Gilmer County, Liberty Harrison , Notre Dame , Pendleton County, Ritchie County
R3 Independence , Liberty Raleigh , Midland Trail , River View , Greenbrier West , Meadow Bridge , Richwood , Webster County , Wyoming East
R4 Buffalo , Logan , Mingo Central , Poca , Ravenswood , Sissonville , Williamstown , Calhoun County , Man , Tug Valley, Wahama , Wirt County
AAAA:
R1 Buckhannon-Upshur, Morgantown, Preston, University, Wheeling Park
R2 Hedgesville, Jefferson, Martinsburg, Musselman, Spring Mills, Washington
R3 George Washington, Oak Hill, Riverside, Woodrow Wilson
R4 Cabell Midland, Huntington High, Hurricane, Parkersburg High, Parkersburg South
AAA:
R1 Bridgeport, Brooke, Fairmont Senior, John Marshall, East Fairmont , Hampshire , Keyser , North Marion
R2 Elkins , Grafton , Lewis County , Robert C Byrd
R3 Capital, Greenbrier East, Nitro, Princeton, South Charleston, St Albans, Bluefield , Herbert Hoover , Nicholas County , PikeView , Shady Spring
R4 Spring Valley, Winfield, Chapmanville Regional, Lincoln County , Point Pleasant , Ripley
AA/A
R1 Berkeley Springs , Frankfort , Oak Glen , Tyler Consolidated , Weir , Cameron , Hundred , Madonna , Magnolia , Paden City , St Marys , Wheeling Central
R2 Braxton County , Clay County , Doddridge County , Lincoln , Moorefield , Petersburg , Philip Barbour , Roane County , South Harrison , East Hardy , Gilmer County, Liberty Harrison , Notre Dame , Pendleton County, Ritchie County
R3 Independence , Liberty Raleigh , Midland Trail , River View , Greenbrier West , Meadow Bridge , Richwood , Webster County , Wyoming East
R4 Buffalo , Logan , Mingo Central , Poca , Ravenswood , Sissonville , Williamstown , Calhoun County , Man , Tug Valley, Wahama , Wirt County
Last edited by masonbailey on Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:02 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Re: Classifications
It feels as though wrestling in West Virginia is moving backwards. As a coach and fan of the sport, I want the state tournament weekend to be the best product possible. The state population is decreasing, participation in the sport is decreasing, and it is decided that we should divide our product even further.
If this decision is what we are going to have to work with, then something needs to be figured out with regionals (or do away with them completely). I have broken down this past years regional participation numbers with next years proposed regions. I only did this with the proposed AAAA, but as you will tell, these numbers are alarming.
Region 1: Buckhannon-Upshur, Morgantown, Preston, University, Wheeling Park
106 - 3
113 - 3
120 - 3
126 - 4
132 - 4
138 - 4
144 - 4
150 - 4
157 - 5
165 - 5
175 - 5
190 - 5
215 - 5
285 - 4
Region 2: R2: Cabell Midland, Huntington High, Hurricane, Parkersburg High, Parkersburg South
106 - 4
113 - 5
120 - 4
126 - 5
132 - 5
138 - 5
144 - 4
150 - 5
157 - 5
165 - 5
175 - 5
190 - 5
215 - 5
285 - 5
Region 3 R3: Hedgesville, Jefferson, Martinsburg, Musselman, Spring Mills, Washington
106 - 5
113 - 5
120 - 6
126 - 5
132 - 5
138 - 6
144 - 6
150 - 5
157 - 6
165 - 5
175 - 5
190 - 6
215 - 6
285 - 5
Region 4 R4: George Washington, Oak Hill, Riverside, Woodrow Wilson
106 - 2
113 - 3
120 - 4
126 - 3
132 - 3
138 - 4
144 - 4
150 - 4
157 - 4
165 - 3
175 - 4
190 - 4
215 - 3
285 - 3
Danny Doyle
If this decision is what we are going to have to work with, then something needs to be figured out with regionals (or do away with them completely). I have broken down this past years regional participation numbers with next years proposed regions. I only did this with the proposed AAAA, but as you will tell, these numbers are alarming.
Region 1: Buckhannon-Upshur, Morgantown, Preston, University, Wheeling Park
106 - 3
113 - 3
120 - 3
126 - 4
132 - 4
138 - 4
144 - 4
150 - 4
157 - 5
165 - 5
175 - 5
190 - 5
215 - 5
285 - 4
Region 2: R2: Cabell Midland, Huntington High, Hurricane, Parkersburg High, Parkersburg South
106 - 4
113 - 5
120 - 4
126 - 5
132 - 5
138 - 5
144 - 4
150 - 5
157 - 5
165 - 5
175 - 5
190 - 5
215 - 5
285 - 5
Region 3 R3: Hedgesville, Jefferson, Martinsburg, Musselman, Spring Mills, Washington
106 - 5
113 - 5
120 - 6
126 - 5
132 - 5
138 - 6
144 - 6
150 - 5
157 - 6
165 - 5
175 - 5
190 - 6
215 - 6
285 - 5
Region 4 R4: George Washington, Oak Hill, Riverside, Woodrow Wilson
106 - 2
113 - 3
120 - 4
126 - 3
132 - 3
138 - 4
144 - 4
150 - 4
157 - 4
165 - 3
175 - 4
190 - 4
215 - 3
285 - 3
Danny Doyle
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Re: Classifications
It feels as though wrestling in West Virginia is moving backwards. As a coach and fan of the sport, I want the state tournament weekend to be the best product possible. The state population is decreasing, participation in the sport is decreasing, and it is decided that we should divide our product even further.
THIS.
A population of roughly the size of the greater Pittsburgh area and 3 different classifications. People should feel proud of even participating in the state tournament not just showing up and weighing in and getting a slot.
I want solid first round matches, not blowouts and byes.
Just sad.
Re: Classifications
Looking at the alignments y'all are wishing for, Hundred, Paden City, and Liberty Harrison are all shutting down. You forgot to take them out.
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